Kevlar, maybe, but not that

[meirwen_1988]

The latest spate of school shootings and hate crimes on academic campuses has me yet again pricing Kevlar. Someone in my profession would have to be brain dead to not be concerned about personal safety in the workplace.

But, for the record, I think Shirley Katz is just plain wrong. The only thing having a gun in the classroom will do to increase the likelihood that someone who should have access to guns will. Instead of wasting all this time and money to bring a gun to school she should be working to get trained security personnel into the school and, here's a shock, teaching.

Look--75% of the guns in this house are MINE. I want to learn to shoot, so I can take the class, to own a handgun. But I would no more take a gun to campus than I would a Molotov cocktail.

It's irresponsible at best, exploitative and selfish at worst. It's wrong any way you look at it.

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The problem is...

[emt-hawk.livejournal.com]

you can't just buy a vest. Most places won't sell them to you, over the counter. You have to have a letter, on letter head from your employer, explaining why, and probably have to have some sort of clearance for it. For example, I can't buy one, from my local neighborhood vest sales place without a letter from my office, on letter head. I would in a heartbeat, too. Better safe than sorry.

It is dumb, but it is allegedly to keep the bad guys from buying them. I suspect in the next few years, there are people out there who are figuring out how to get backpacks and office bags made out of bullet-resistant material. That way, you at least have something to hide behind, a little. There is a father's group out there trying to put trauma plates in their kids' backpacks, with limited, untested results. I say that, because to my knowledge, the systems they designed are untested.

--Hawk

[keastree.livejournal.com]

For women our size, they start at $700 bucks. It's a custom job and it doesn't conceal under women's clothing as well as mens' do.

Yes, I priced them and got the particulars. No, you really don't want to know why....

[keastree.livejournal.com]

Shirley Katz is basically asking for the same right to carry that teachers in the State of Utah currently have. (FWIW, Utah is NOT a good place for people to try school shootings, because the perp will be dropped in their tracks--they don't mess around when it comes to kids.) If she is trained and she keeps it concealed, then it is less accessible than the average service revolver or automatic. I just saw a Kel-Tec .380 that is small enough to be completely concealed in someone's jeans pocket and that would be pretty damned hard for anyone to get at.

I've lived under active threat. I know where Katz coming from every time I have to take one of the kids to a scouting function at a local school. I intensely dislike disarming.

Cocktails Anyone?

[sillyviking.livejournal.com]

Remind me someday to teach you how to make a Molotov Cocktail--learned in Boy Scouts.

Re: Cocktails Anyone?

[hearne.livejournal.com]

ok, that's funny. My troop was in Rochester. Where was yours? (curious if MC's were a NY-Scout-Thing or nationwide.) *grin*

Re: Cocktails Anyone?

[sillyviking.livejournal.com]

My troop was in Owego, and part of the "Baden-Powell Council."

[theboomboom.livejournal.com]

And you wonder why Ed loves you. :)

(The two of you are not allowed to start commiserating on this topic before you'd had tea and he's had coffee this weekend. Or at least not until I have. Y'all are gonna get loud. Grin.)